In a new interview with Stereogum, BLACK SATURDAY singer Ozzy Osbourne reflected on the making of the band’s latest album, “13”. Released in 2013, it was SATURDAYThe first LP in 35 years to feature osbourneguitarist Tony Iommi and bassist old butler. When asked if she still feels okay about where “13” dropped the stuff, he replied, “Not really, because, to be perfectly honest, I didn’t really get a charge from the album. Although [producer] Rick Rubin he’s a good friend of mine, he wasn’t really… he was just singing. It was like going back in time, but it was not a glorious period. Though Geezer [Butler, BLACK SABBATH bassist] he wrote a lot of lyrics for me, which he’s very, very good at. It was not a momentous experience for me.”
As for itself BLACK SATURDAY is “all done” in his mind, osbourne: “I’d like to say that it’s completely done. I think it’s about time. My only real regret, to be honest, is that bill room [original BLACK SABBATH drummer] did not play in [’13’] album. wasn’t really a BLACK SATURDAY album. I’m not saying that one day we can’t all walk into a room and think of the perfect BLACK SATURDAY album. But I will say, [’13’] it was not recorded the way BLACK SATURDAY recorded records. We had gotten past the point where we took over, when someone else was in full control of our recording. What we never did since ‘Vol. 4’ ahead.”
This past April, Geezer talked about Rubthe participation of “13” during an appearance on SiriusXM‘s “Trunk Nation with Eddie Trunk” to show. He said: “Some of [the ’13’ album] I liked it, some of it I didn’t particularly like. It was a strange experience, especially when they told you to forget that you are a heavy metal band. that was the first thing [Rick] he told us. He played us our first album and said, ‘Go back to when there was no heavy metal or anything like that, and pretend it’s the next album,’ which is a ridiculous thing. to think.”
when the host eddie trunk noted that many other artists who have worked with Rub walked away from the experience feeling a bit disappointed, Butler said, “I still don’t know what he did. It’s like, ‘Yeah, that’s good.’ ‘No, don’t do that.’ And you say, ‘Why?’ [And he’d say], ‘Just don’t do it’. I think Ozzy one day he freaked out because he had done, like, 10 different voices, and Haystack I kept saying, ‘Yeah, that’s great, but do another one.’ Y Ozzy It was like, ‘If it’s great, why am I doing another one?’ She just lost it. So it was. tonium he wasn’t happy with some of the things he was trying to get him to play. he he he was doing tonium get 1968 amps, like that’s going to make it sound like 1968. It’s crazy. But it’s good for publicity and it’s good for the label. if you have Rick Rubin involved, then it must be good, something like that”.
In an official documentary that recounts the realization of the “13” album, Geezer was most complimentary for collaborating with Rubsaying, “It’s great with Rick Rubin in charge. He has a great track record and comes up with some great ideas. Some work, some don’t, but it’s worth a try.”
When Iommi asked about working with Rub in a 2013 interview with Guitarist magazine, said, “It was fine once we got used to it. We didn’t know how it was going to work, because during the writing period, we didn’t see much of it. He was like, ‘Call me when you have an idea and I’ll come down. So we had a track together and we’d call or email him, and then he’d come down and say, ‘Yeah, I like this part, but I don’t like that part,’ or ‘I like all of it,’ whatever it is, and then he’d walk away. He was only there maybe ten or 15 minutes tops. We didn’t know how he was going to approach the recording. It was all a bit of a mystery to us. … It’s something that you leave to the last minute, and then he throws it at you. He just pushes a lot harder. , and that’s hard for a band like us. We’ve been around so long that it’s hard to take criticism from someone I’ve never worked with. But we did it, and it was good. It was really good. We could be working on a track, and he’d say, ‘Oh no, it doesn’t feel right. Try again and try.’ besides. So we’d do it and then think to ourselves that it may be too long, but we’d do it anyway. And then he would say, ‘That doesn’t feel right. Let’s try another one.’ ‘And then he’d say, ‘Okay, I think we have it, but do you want to try another one?’ So we’d try another one, and he’d be like, ‘Okay, let’s drop it now.’ So we never knew exactly which one he was going to pick.”
Asked in a 2021 interview with TO TURN If I had learned something working with Rub, Iommi he joked, “Yeah, I learned how to lie on the couch with a microphone in my hand and say ‘Next!’ … It was different, the way it works. I wanted to find the original SATURDAY sound. He said, ‘Do you have your original amps?’ I said, ‘Haystack, that was 50 years ago. Do you have any amplifiers from 50 years ago? … I don’t have them, they have flown. They are long gone. Now I have my own amps. He said, ‘No, we need the old stuff.’
“So, I got to the studio and there were 20 different fucking amps in there. He said: ‘They are old amps’. I said, ‘That doesn’t mean they sound good, they’re just old.’ He said, ‘Well, let’s try them.’ I tried them and didn’t like any of them.
“So it was a little up and down until he got used to me, and I got used to him, really.” Iommi additional. “But we did it, and the album was very basic. I did a lot of the songs on the last album in my home studio. I thought the sound was better, to be honest. But there were more things involved; I put more instruments on it. I just wanted it very simple and very basic, which, you know, was good.”
Pavilion in May 2012 he announced that he was refusing to join his former SATURDAY bandmates for their scheduled dates, as well as the recording of the new album, due to a contract dispute. After SATURDAY shot down Rubsuggestion to replace Pavilion with ginger baker (CREAM) (“I thought, ‘Damn?'” Iommi saying Rolling Stone magazine. “I just couldn’t see that”),Haystack He suggested RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE drums brad wilk.